rudius_maximus ([info]rudius_maximus) wrote,

Harry Potter, Harry Potter!

Heather had to stop at a Walmart in Detroit to pick up her copy; we were on the way to her cousin's kid's graduation party. This is better than last year, when we hung around a B&N until midnight, then realized the whole thing was waaaaay too strange and packed with kids. Then, we went to Meijer and picked it up - in and out in 10 minutes.

Personally, I don't "get" the whole Harry Potter thing. It vaguely reminds me of the Chronicles of Narnia, which was DOPE when I was 8.

Whatever gets kids to read, though, is fine by me.

I read (past tense) nonstop from about the age of 4-5 until I hit college. I found my leisure reading time cut down to nothing, and with the exception of a book here and there, I just wasn't interested. The act of reading is kind of like exercise; once you get started on a book it's easy to finish, but it's the "getting started" part that is difficult.

Then, there is the whole "Silence of the Lambs" thing. I saw the movie before reading the book, and realized that I wouldn't have enjoyed the movie NEARLY as much if I'd had the book spoil it for me. I read the whole thing afterwards, and realized that the book served to flesh the backstory out, and I enjoyed both equally. I try to explain this to people who tell me that they always read the book first, but usually most people have to have an epiphany, like I did, to appreciate the proper book-to-movie viewing order.

Since the book is a superset of story compared to the movie, you would be ruining every twist, turn, and plot point by reading the story first. Yes, the book is usually better; but, since you've seen the movie first, you can enjoy it on its own merits without constantly comparing the two as you sit in the theater.

IS the written word a higher art form than a movie? I could argue convincingly either way, so I'll have to settle on "it depends on the material". A book more easily captures the imagination, since you're creating the action in your head by default. However, and this is a BIG however, a book does not contain a score, sound, f/x, direction, cinematography, or sight gags.

I read the book "Jurassic Park", and it was ok. The MOVIE, on the other hand - seeing actors interacting with bigass dinosaurs brought to life - was a neat experience. The exact opposite (might as well stick with Mike Crichton) is "Timeline". I borked my "movie THAN book" rule for this one, because I was on some trip and needed a book. So I picked that one up, then learned they were making a movie of it afterward and got excited because the book was pretty good. Holy hell, did they pull off a botch job. It was neat to see certain setpieces brought to life on the big screen, but it was typical "cinema by committee" garbage.

A similar experience was Stephen King's "Needful Things". The book itself was actually pretty boring, up until the end. The entire town riots, the Baptists and Catholics ("Bab-tist Rat Fucks!") try killing each other, and the lead character goes berzerk and takes a dump on his mother-in-law's picture. It's all really demented, but hilarious, it was like something John Waters would write. Then, they announced they were making a movie of it, and I thought to myself, "how in the *hell* are they going to do that? Are they actually going to have characters insulting major religions, and show a dude taking a shit on his mother-in-law's picture?". Well, they didn't, and it was pretty obvious the movie was made just so they could have another "Stephen King, Inc." product to sell.

That said, his book "The Stand" remains as my favorite book of all time. I've never been a HUGE King fan (of the major horror writers, Clive Barker is worlds better), but that book took my 13 year old imagination and taught it a powerful lesson: never, ever, judge a story by its genre. It's a lesson I'm still trying to impart to Heather, with limited success. :)

At any rate, I might as well come full circle and give my opinion on the "Harry Potter" movies. The first one was OK; the kids were cute, but I felt like I was about 25 years too old to be in the theater. The second one was a bit better; the high point of the movie was the fact that the student bathroom was the entryway to a huge cave. If I were a kid, that would be really cool to me; I remember looking in the drains in my school bathroom, wondering what mysterious area all these drains led to. So, it sort of brought me back to my childhood in that respect. The third movie was actually pretty good. As an adult, there was nothing in it that really drove my imagination into overdrive, but if I were a child I would have LOVED it.

The part that I most enjoyed of the Harry Potter movies is Alan Rickman, who I have to tell non-movie freak people was the "head terrorist in Die Hard". He's always fun to watch.

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[info]jaimem30

July 18 2005, 14:43:59 UTC 6 years ago

I love Alan Rickman too. He's such a perfect smarmy/creepy/jerky person.

The only King "product" I've enjoyed to date is the movie for "It". Maybe it was because I was relatively young when I watched the movie/mini-series, but "It" truly wigged me out. "Carrie"...ehh. I think we saw "Needful Things" together; it was okay.

Of course, I'm partial to reading. I do have a quirk, though; I often read the ending long before I finish the book. I think, for me, I like to watch how the author gets to the end. Eric gives me shit all the time about it, but it keeps me interested. The book I'm reading now, I'm still trying to figure out how the author is going to tie it all together.

Do you remember the name of the horror movie we watched that was so awful we turned it off about 20 minutes in? I think that's the only movie I've turned off in utter lack of interest. I think it was in your apartment in Kentwood, or maybe even when you lived at GV.

[info]rudius_maximus

July 18 2005, 15:03:14 UTC 6 years ago

No, I'm awful at remember the names of movies, especially those that I didn't watch. Shit, I think we even made it through the "Ice Cream Man" movie!

Along with "The Stand", King's best books were "It" and "Salem's Lot". I think I did watch the "It" movie, but remember it being extreeeemely pale compared to the book. I pictured the clown being a lot more terrifying.

As far as reading the ending, I'm not sure how that would work with plot twists. If a character has a sex change mid-book and marries his brother, do you even *want* to know how this happened? That aside, I'd think you'd be cheating yourself of a great story ("oh, they don't talk about that character anymore. He must have died!"). I remember you telling me about this quirk of yours, and I still don't quite get it!

[info]jaimem30

July 18 2005, 15:15:23 UTC 6 years ago

"Ice Cream Man" was hilarious! I'm going to have Eric watch it with me sometime. I subjected a few boyfriends in college to it too.

Remember the one movie that we got, thinking it was horror, and it turned out to be like soft porn or something? Looked like to was shot on someone's video camera? I don't remember the name of that one, either.

[info]rudius_maximus

July 18 2005, 15:57:37 UTC 6 years ago

Yeah, I remember the soft-core masterpiece. That one didn't even LOOK good, I don't know what we were thinking!

[info]hperna

July 18 2005, 16:01:28 UTC 6 years ago

I love Alan Rickman!!!

[info]rudius_maximus

July 18 2005, 16:17:49 UTC 6 years ago

It does seem like this guy's stock has gone up recently, and I wonder if it's because of the Harry Potter movies. It's not like he's been in a lot of huge blockbusters, otherwise.

Off the top of my head, I remember him in Die Hard, Robin Hood (with Costner), Dogma, that stupid-ass Hugh Grant romantic comedy from a year or so back, and Galaxy Quest. I'm wracking my brain trying to think of other movies he's been in - and I know he's been in quite a few - but can't really place them.

[info]hperna

July 18 2005, 16:21:20 UTC 6 years ago

that stupid-ass Hugh Grant romantic comedy from a year or so back

That would be Love Actually :)

And yes, it is because of Harry Potter. Embrace Harry Potter, Love Harry Potter :)

[info]michigan_loverz

July 18 2005, 17:24:24 UTC 6 years ago

I dont understand the Potter craze but like I posted on Heathers blog, anything that takes kids away from video games and brings them back to books, is worth more than money itself.

Books make the imagination go into overdrive. It put pictures in your mind and makes you live out the fantasy world as you read. Movies already give that to you.

One movie that couldnt do what the book did was Stephen King's "It". That movie made the book like a cell phone instruction manual.

I was a Judy Blume reading little girl. I still read as many novels as I can.

Alan Rickman was also in Dogma :)

[info]rudius_maximus

July 18 2005, 17:40:18 UTC 6 years ago

Judy Blume, eh? I may have read some books of hers when I was little, really don't remember. My favorite childhood book was "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory", though. Not sure if I'll see the new movie, though I refused to see the old one.

Sometimes, maybe there are some childhood memories that shouldn't be mucked with.

[info]michigan_loverz

July 18 2005, 20:03:59 UTC 6 years ago

Don't let childhood fears or bad memories mess with ya! Garrett is going to have a few in his growing up process. He's gonna need you to get thru them.
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Gene Wilder made the first C&CF movie the classic it is. He's so versatile. But others think he's just a useless hack. But his Frankenstein movie paraody is good.

[info]hperna

July 19 2005, 01:54:40 UTC 6 years ago

judy Blume was my favorie when I was growing up. I loved Tiger Eyes, one of her teen novels. I have probably read that at least 50 times!
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